Common mistakes & Solutions
Howdy boys!
OK playas, this is from my experience after the trip to London and meeting up
with the RSD crew as well as Loverboy, Richie, Dino and a few other PUAs.
During my trip, I realized that a lot of the inexperienced guys all have pretty
much the same problems and make the same mistakes.
Here’s a list of the most obvious ones and IMO how to solve them:
Common mistake #1: Approaching for the sake of approaching
This is where guys approach every chick that they see just for the sake of
approaching her. I mean they don’t feel any real attraction for her, they only
approach cuz they don’t want to be looked down on by the “community”. Seems
like a lot of the guys feel like they have to approach EVERY decent looking
chick to be considered a PUA. Nothing could be further from the truth.
This is OK if you’re out doing boot camp or trying to get over your fear of
approaching, etc. But I’ve seen this from guys who have no fear of approaching
at all. And they approach and approach and approach, etc. I swear I’ve seen
guys approach more chicks in 1 day than I approach in an entire month. AT THE
MOST I’LL approach 7-10 chicks a week, over 2 nights of sarging, that’s all I
need.
I know, I know “But Razorjack, your game is much more efficient than most of
the guys on this board!”
This is true, but DON’T MISS THE VITAL POINT! There is a reason WHY my game is
more efficient! And here it is:
When a guy approaches this fucking much, it becomes routine and mundane. He
becomes an APPROACH ROBOT that feels absolutely NOTHING for the chick he’s
gaming. Then all of a sudden, you come across like a sleazy used-car salesman
trying to get rid of a piece of shit on wheels to the next available customer.
He doesn’t give a shit who that customer is or what the customer wants etc. If
you were the customer, would you want to buy a car from a guy who treats you
like this?
Now put yourself in the chick’s shoes. And if I notice this from observation,
don’t you guys think that the chicks you’re approaching notice this as well??!!
Then guess what? It doesn’t matter how many routines, tricks, C&F, disinterest,
gimmicks, etc you throw out, you don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell.
Solution:
Be GENUINELY attracted to a chick before approaching. I’m talking about
actually allowing yourself to FEEL something for the chick.
OK, I know there are A LOT of guys here that used to be or still are AFCs and I
know that a lot of guys, including my self, that have been rejected, hurt,
humiliated, heart-broken, etc after having developed feelings for a chick. And
so there is a natural fear of “opening” up that part of you that actually feels
something for chicks. So what happens is, that FEAR causes guys to close
themselves off from feeling anything for chicks.
And guys, don’t start ranting about how it’s not about fear and chicks want
“Alpha” guys that aren’t into them, etc. Unless you’re interested in a few
LSE/psycho chicks, then it’s nothing but a bunch of keyboard jockeying, mental
masturbating, seducing from the armchair bullshit. Trust me on this guys, I’ve
been out in the field and actually TRIED to PU like this.
BTW, I’m not saying that you should go head over heels over a chick, develop
one-itis, etc.
You have to find a balance here, you feel enough to be genuine and at the same
time not ashamed of expressing your desires as a man, but you don’t go
overboard by supplicating, kissing ass, etc for a chick who hasn’t done
anything for you other than look good. This comes with experience, but just
like every other aspect of the game, IT CAN BE PRACTICED AND ACHIEVED!
Common mistake #2: Not knowing where to take the PU or what to do next.
You guys know what I’m talking about. How many of you guys approach chicks,
open the set and have no idea what to do or say next? Has this ever happened to
you?
Razorjack raises his hand. Yes boys I’ve been there myself and believe it or
not, the solution here is REALLY simple!
Solution:
GOALS!!!! Have both long-term goals and short-term goals!
Long term goals are stuff like what you want to do with your life, what type of
chicks you want, how you want to interact with chicks, what you would like to
do with chicks, etc. Read my posts “How do YOU want to PU?” and “Make PU a Part
of You/Being One With Your Game.” This shit isn’t easy, but I can’t stress the
importance of this. This is hard work but I can promise you it’s worth the
effort! This is where the essence of self-confidence comes from.
Short-term goals are stuff like, what it is you want with a particular chick
before you approach: #close, day2 meet-up, fclose, etc.
Yeah, here it comes! :)
“Razorjack, how the hell is this shit supposed to help us PU chicks now??!!”
Easy boys! Now instead of trying to come with a clever C&F statement or running
a pointless routine, you now have something to FOCUS on!
Here’s an example:
I got in touch with Loverboy before my trip to London and he got us on a few
guest lists for the more exclusive nightclubs. Nice work LB! :) But some of the
clubs wanted 50/50 ratios of guys and chicks, ie we needed to bring chicks with
us.
So we decided to pick up chicks on the street and get them to come with us. So
LB, Richie, Dino and me are walking around in a plaza, don’t remember the name.
We spot a tent set up for selling PC games. There were these 2 HOT model chicks
giving away t-shirts. Clearly these chicks are there to get computer geeks to
come in and try the games.
Anyways LB, Richie and Dino go in and start talking to the chicks first. I
don’t think it’s going anywhere so I decided to go in. Now keep in mind that my
goal with these chicks is to #close them and get them to come with us to a
night club the next night. Now my goal is all that I’m focused on from the
opener to close:
RJ(smiling): Man, you 2 look like the biggest computer geeks I’ve ever seen!
HB1(both HBs smiling back): Yes we are!
HB2: Yeah, we can’t get enough of these games! :)
RJ: I bet! You know I love your British accents!
HB1: Thanks! So where are you from?
RJ: Well I live in Sweden but I’m originally an American.
HB2: Yeah, I thought you sounded like a yank!
RJ(laughing): Yeah I know we’re all idiots and assholes!
HB2: No, I really like yanks! They’re great!
Razorjack slides his arm around HB2’s waist right in front of everybody there!
:)
RJ(smiling): Oh really! You’re like my new best friend here in London!
Dino(joking): Hey Razorjack, I think she likes you!
The chick doesn’t say anything, but just smiles. OK now only 2 minutes have
gone by and all I did up to this point was just get the chicks comfortable with
me talking to them. Now here’s where I start going in for the close.
RJ: Hey listen, I’m only a tourist here for a few days. What would you
recommend I see and do?
HB1: Bla bla
RJ: OK cool! My buddy LB has gotten me on the guest list for this club XXX
tomorrow. Have you 2 ever been there?
HB2: Yeah that’s a pretty good place. You should also check out xxxx.
HB1: Yeah I also like club YYYY.
RJ: So you think club XXX is definitely worth checking out?
HB2: Oh yeah, totally.
RJ: OK, I’ll definitely go then. Here’s the deal I heard that we’re suppose to
have a 50/50 ratio of guys and girls when we get there. Why don’t you 2 join me
tomorrow and show me what London is all about!
HB2: Yeah, sure!
Razorjack whips out his cell phone! :)
RJ: OK so give me your number and we’ll get in touch tomorrow.
HB2: Oh! I can’t give my number out to a stranger!
RJ(smiling): Of course you can’t! You can never trust strangers! So give me
your number and I’ll get in touch with you tomorrow!
HB2(smiling): No, how about if we meet you there instead.
RJ: Oh c’mon! If you 2 can’t make it tomorrow then I’m screwed!
HB2: OK why don’t you give me your number and I’ll call you.
RJ(smiling): Yeah right! You think I’m gonna give MY number out to a
stranger??!! You could be a psycho stalker for all I know!
Both HBs are laughing now! Now Razorjack goes in for the kill! :)
HB2: Why don’t you guys just go and meet girls on the street and ask them to
join you.
RJ(smiling): Well what the hell do you think I’m doing NOW??!!
HB2(joking): OK, I’ll give you my boyfriend’s number!
RJ(joking back): Great! I’ll let him know that you thought I was cute and that
me and him would be perfect for each other! Although my gf probably wouldn’t
appreciate it!
HB2(laughing): No! Don’t do that!
RJ(joking around): OK then give me YOUR number so I can post it all over the
internet!
HB2(laughing and shaking her head): No I can’t do that!
RJ(laughing): Hey if you’re expecting me to get your number and stalk you
long-distance from Sweden, then don’t hold your breath! I did that once and it
nearly bankrupted my ass!
HB2(laughing): Yeah I bet it did!
RJ(smiling): Hey look, if you’re not gonna give me your number then give me a
FAKE number!
HB2(shocked look on her face): Are you serious? You want a FAKE number?
RJ(smiling): Sure why not! You chicks give out fake numbers all the time!
HB2(still shocked): I don’t believe you! You really want a FAKE number?
RJ(smiling): No of course not silly! I want your REAL number, but I don’t want
to stand out here all day begging for it. Look, I’m only gonna send ONE SMS
tomorrow and if you wanna come with us, then comes with us. If you can’t make
it then just say so and I’ll find some other chicks go with us.
Here I give her my cell and she puts in a number. Now remember guys I hadn’t
even asked these chicks what their names are. I get my phone back and ask her
what her name is. She tells me and I type it in.
I never SMS:ed the chicks the next day so I can’t be sure if the number was
real or not, but the name she gave me was definitely real. Don’t ask me how I
know, I just do! :)
Anyways the whole point here is that I was focused on my goal of getting a
#close the whole time from the opener to the close. Everything I did before
getting the actual number was just working towards my goal!
Common mistake #3: Playing the disinterest game with the wrong type of chicks
OK, I’ve seen a lot of guys do this. Here’s one example:
On the way home after the RSD workshop, I was on a bus along with some of the
students that took the workshop. Anyways this one student spots a chick getting
on at a stop. This chick sits down in the empty seat next to me, while the
student is sitting across from her. Anyways this chick isn’t the type that gets
hit on a lot, she looks OK but you can tell she isn’t the party type.
So anyways this student opens her and starts running his routines, negging her,
saying shit like she and him could never be a couple, etc. Anyways this chick
barely says a word after getting negged, being disqualified, etc. Now guess
what happened after that?
That’s right! Absolutely NOTHING! The student painted himself in a corner by
disqualifying her and him self. The chick isn’t the party type that would all
of a sudden start chasing him and he couldn’t show interest in her now, without
looking like an idiot. So this PU went NOWHERE!
Sound familiar fellas?
Solution:
I would advise staying away from the disinterest thing altogether. But if you
absolutely must do the disinterest thing, make sure that you do it on the party
type of chick that is used to being hit on by guys. Also make sure she is
ATTRACTED or at least INTRIGUED by you before taking it too far.
Common mistake #4: Starting the interaction in the “wrong” direction
Everybody says that openers don’t matter. Actually if you read about my method,
I even wrote this and it’s true openers really don’t matter when we’re talking
about opening sets.
But let’s be honest boys! Our goal with PU isn’t just to open sets, our goals
are to fuck chicks and have MLTRs with bisexual chicks, etc. Yummmmm, bisexual
chicks…..
Wait those are my goals! Sorry guys I got carried away here for a second! :)
Seriously boys, let’s talk about efficiency. A geography example:
Let’s say you’re traveling from New York to California. What direction would
you drive?
I know this sounds like a silly question, but believe me if you compare this to
PU, some guys will use openers that actually start them in a direction towards
New England! Obviously the most efficient direction would be to start driving
towards California, but hell it would even be more efficient to start out
towards Florida than New England! For those of you unfamiliar with US
geography, I’m talking about starting out in the exact opposite direction of
where your final destination is.
Sounds ridiculous, doesn’t it? Believe me there are guys out there doing this
and they don’t even notice it!
Here’s an example:
We’re out during the daytime in London trying to PU chicks to come with us to
the nightclubs where we were on the guest list. Two chicks stop pretty close to
us, giving us blatant IOIs. I let the guys know and tell them to approach.
One of the guys pulls out his cell phone and opens the 2-set by showing them
pictures with his phone. The routine is good and it works, both chicks laugh
and he busts the set wide open.
But the routine is flawed in this case! Cuz now I’m watching him and he’s been
gaming these chicks for about 5 minutes and they look like they’re about to
leave. I’m standing about 5 meters away and having a hard time containing
myself. He needs to close and needs to do it fast! Well a couple of minutes
later the chicks say that they have to go and leave. No number close.
So this dude comes back and I ask him what happened. He tells me that he opened
using the phone and showing them pictures of 2 chicks and asking them which
chick is prettier. After they answer he asked them which one they think was the
transvestite. They laughed and said they hoped it wasn’t the one they picked.
He then told them that both chicks were transvestites! Funny stuff!
But now the problem! Then he talked about phones or transvestites or something
like that. I then ask him why didn’t he close them when they were about to
leave. His answer:
“I couldn’t think of a natural way to switch immediately into asking them to go
with us to the night clubs! It would have felt awkward to close then!”
Guess what? He started the PU in the WRONG direction!
Solution:
Think about where you want to go before approaching! What is your goal with
this particular chick/set?
Now I asked this guy to imagine the same scenario with these chicks, but this
time he instead opens them by asking their opinion about a particular
nightclub. He would have started the PU in exactly the right direction! Then
the close would have been a natural occurrence!
This is the same thing for you guys starting off a PU with disinterest,
gimmicks and stuff. Obviously you’re going to have to show interest in the
chick if anything is to happen and sure you can achieve this by starting with
disinterest, etc. But if you start off with disinterest you’re leaving yourself
a lot of work to do: from disinterested to neutral to interested and at the
same time REMAINING CONGRUENT!
All of a sudden you’re giving yourself the tiniest margins for error and this
is where I’ve seen a lot of guys blow a PU! Really, guys that do this are
making things much more complicated and difficult than necessary.
Common mistake #5: Being emotionally closed off
I’ve seen guys approach and game chicks without expressing any emotion what so
ever. No enthusiasm, no vibrancy, no charisma, no passion, no excitement, no
nothing! It looks so robotic and unnatural that chicks actually find it creepy.
What’s funny is that a lot of the guys doing this don’t even realize it! How
much pussy do you think these guys are getting? That’s right! A BIG FAT ZERO!
Solution:
This is fucking simple boys! You need to understand what chicks want! Chicks
want passion, excitement, romance, adventure, etc. They basically want to be
swept away into the whole full-blown romantic fantasy!
This involves emotion! Go out and start living life passionately! Stop playing
the PC games, get off the chat boards, pick your ass up and go bungy jumping!
Or climb a mountain! Or take up skydiving or surfing! Or travel around the
world! Try new foods or take salsa lessons! Find new exciting hobbies and live
life instead of letting it pass you by!
Common mistake #6: Not observing and acknowledging the chick’s reactions
Example:
I was hanging out with the boys in London and talking about my more direct
style. One of the guys wants to try it.
He approaches a nice-looking chick and tells her that she’s beautiful and wants
to get to know her. She looks at him strangely and seems stunned. The guy is
totally stumped, he has no idea what to do next and it goes nowhere.
So what did he do wrong?
Solution:
First of all, he didn’t really feel anything for the chick, he was only trying
out direct game! He came across as insincere and sounded like he does that to
every chick he sees. Refer to Common mistake #1.
But even in spite of that, he could have turned it around. How? By observing
and acknowledging her reactions!
I observed that she didn’t believe that he was sincere and genuine when he said
that. If he would have just said “You know you look like you don’t believe me.
Why wouldn’t you believe that a guy can find you beautiful and want to get to
know you? My name is Razorjack, what’s your name?”
Then start up the kino and screen her! :)
Common mistake #7: Never coming out of “indirect” mode – Blindly throwing out
routine after routine
I’ve seen guys doing this and let me tell you it just looks FUCKING pathetic.
This is where guys learn so many routines and when they PU, the only thing they
do is spit out routine after routine. It basically looks like a chicken running
around in circles after getting it’s head chopped off.
Basically these guys are running around in circles wasting time and energy on
the their routines and NOT GETTING ANY CLOSER TO THE LAY!
Solution:
This is a combination of a lot of things IMO. First of all they feel like they
need to keep spitting out routines to keep chicks interested. They also think
they need to keep talking cuz any uncomfortable silence might blow the set.
Also they believe that they need to “trick” chicks into sex by running
routines, cuz they think doing that will attract the chicks rather than being
who they really are.
If this is you, then go back re-read this post and do ALL OF THE ABOVE! :)
Peace brothas!
-Razorjack
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